ISO 9001:2015 – Newsletter – Issue 32



Issue 32 – Clause 8.7:  Control of Nonconforming Outputs


ISO 9001:2015…

Clause 8.7:  Control of nonconforming outputs


What’s new in Clause 8.7?… In our last Newsletter (ISO 9001:2015 Newsletter Issue 31) we discussed the topic of “releasing products and services”, and now here in Clause 8.7 we address the area dealing with “controlling surprises”.   This is the last Clause within Element 8.0 (Operation), which is by far the largest of all the ISO Elements.
Note A:  This Clause DOES include requirements for “documented information”.
Note B:  As some of you already know, the content for these Newsletters comes from working in the field with my Clients, and with their ISO Certification Bodies.  I gain a lot of hands-on experience from conducting training workshops and gap audits, where the requirements of the Standard have to be interpreted and applied to each unique situation.  Combining an on-site Gap Audit with ISO 9001:2015 Essentials Training, has become our most popular request for proposal from our Newsletter readers.  The second most popular request is our on-site Document Development Training Workshop (…more details on these training sessions, as well as other training that we offer, can be found below).


The new numbering format… 

Element 4 – Context of the organization
Element 5 – Leadership
Element 6 – Planning
Element 7 – Support
Element 8 – Operation
Element 9 – Performance evaluation
Element 10 – Improvement


Clause 8.7  Control of nonconforming outputs consists of two (2) Sub-Clauses as listed below:

8.7.1  The organization shall ensure that outputs that do not conform…

8.7.2  The organization shall retain documented information that…


Sub-Clause 8.7.1  The organization shall ensure that outputs that do not conform… – I used the first 10 words of this sub-clause since it has no “title” to identify it.  Speaking of “titles”, note the use of the word “output” in the title of Clause 8.7.  They could have said “Control of nonconforming products and services” but they chose to say “outputs” instead.  Although this word is not new to the ISO Standard (it can found a few times back in the 2008 version) it has certainly been used much more often this time around.  The first occurrence can be found back in sub-clause 4.4.1a) …determine the inputs and outputs expected from these processes…  Element 8.0 (Operation) uses the word “output” throughout the text.  One specific example of its use is found back in 8.5.1c) …the implementation of monitoring and measurement activities at appropriate stages to verify that criteria for control of processes or outputs, and acceptance criteria for products and services, have been met…  One reason why they might have chosen to use the word “output” is because a number of organizations only applied “control of nonconforming product” (in the old 2008 version) to the FINAL product destined for the Customer, and not to IN-PROCESS product/service, nor to INCOMING products/services from Vendors.  Going upstream in a process to identify any problems earlier, is a much better approach (and cheaper in the long run).

So with that in mind, what I see new here in Sub-Clause 8.7.1 is first of all, controlling ALL nonconformities, not just final product/service issues but incoming and in-process as well.  Secondly, you will need to address the “and services” part of this sub-clause, which means that late delivery will need to be addressed as a “nonconforming output” in many companies, and so it should since most Customers view on-time delivery as a critical quality requirement of the delivery service process.  Finally, they’ve also made it clear, that just like products, the requirements within this sub-clause also apply to services while you are providing them, and even after they have been provided to the Customer (the words used are …during or after the provision of services…).


Sub-Clause 8.7.2  The organization shall retain documented information that… – Once again, I used the first words (in this case 7) of this sub-clause since it has no “title” to identify it.  What is new here is the requirement in 8.7.1d) which says …identifies the authority deciding the action in respect of the nonconformity…, which now must be documented.  This means actually identifying the “authority” who decided what action will be taken to “control” EACH nonconformity that has been identified.


Be sure to watch for our next Newsletter issue where we will cover another section of ISO 9001:2015…


PS: Don’t forget to look at the Q&A section below for some final thoughts…


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Q:  How do you perform a gap audit for Clause 8.7 of ISO 9001:2015?

A:  For Clause 8.7, a Gap Audit checklist should cover these areas:

–  Has the organization defined what is considered to be an “output” that is nonconforming?
–  Has the organization dealt with nonconforming outputs from Vendors?  From in-process activities?
–  Has the organization identified problems when providing services to Customers, as nonconformities?  Has “acceptance under concession” for a service ever occurred?  Was the Customer involved?
–  Has a nonconforming service ever been identified after its provision to the Customer? How was it handled?
–  Has the organization ever suspended the activities of a service provider as a result of a nonconformity?
–  Does the organization retain documented information identifying the authority who decided what action would be taken for EACH nonconforming output that occurred?  Can the identity of the person (or persons) be traced?

(Make sure to interview more than one person and obtain examples for the items listed above)


Until next time…

Tim Renaud

Helping Business Professionals Reduce Risk and Remove Waste!